the traffic controller said. 'Look at all them bags. One witness whose testimony Russell did hear in person was that of Governor John Connally. Yeah, I understand that. On his Facebook page, which had limited public access, he said he was from Wasilla, Alaska; lived in Sumner, Washington; and was married in 2012. Air traffic control: Rich, you said you had 2,100 pounds of fuel left? in a calculated bit of political symbolism, Governor Sanders (representing the New South), New York mayor Robert Wagner (representing ethnically diverse cities), and White House aide Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. (a spokesman for Democratic liberals), had been conspicuously seated next to the First Lady. . Description: This All Commissioners stated that they would plan to attend that proceeding. The Chief Justice was scheduled to arrive in the Oval Office at 4:30 p.m., and Johnson was confident a one-on-one meeting would lead to Warren changing his mind. Richard Russell was born in Winder, Georgia, on 2nd November, 1897. [note 4] The Presidential Recordings Program revised the following section of text in 2021 for inclusion in The LBJ Telephone Tapes, a project produced by the Miller Center in partnership with the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library to commemorate the library's 50th anniversary. [note 5] Chief Justice Warren was due at the White House in 25 minutes. . [4] It landed at SeattleTacoma International Airport at 13:35 local time the afternoon of the incident, after an in-service flight from Victoria, British Columbia. The episode illustrates several interesting aspects of the workings of the Commission and the creation of the Warren Report. Now, the next thing: I know how you feel about this CIA. But after hes up here. Page 4. Might as well have gone to the moon. And if I had my way, youd be in my place and Id trade with you! [note 9] The Presidential Recordings Program revised the following section of text in 2021 for inclusion in The LBJ Telephone Tapes, a project produced by the Miller Center in partnership with the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library to commemorate the library's 50th anniversary. , updated Hes going to give them more problems. After Russell performed an unauthorized takeoff, two McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle fighters were scrambled to intercept the aircraft. . Uh-hmm. "[20], Rolling Stone magazine investigated the incident and reported in 2021 that some of Russell's friends and family believe he may have suffered brain injuries during his football years in high school and college. Discussion was had regarding Chapters III and IV of the proposed Report. Three of the Commissions seven members expressed doubts about the Warren Reports loneassassin theory. In the first quarter, Capital One earned $960 million or $2.31 per diluted common share. he dont have to be. His performance there was a disappointment; he left for Southwestern Oregon Community College, where he met his wife at a Campus Crusade for Christ meeting. Rich: Oh hell yeah, its a blast. So if you want to try to land, that's the way to go. He had planned to seek a management position at Horizon Air or become a military officer after receiving his degree. [Elbert] Tuttle? Russells unpublished personal papers can be found in the Richard B. Russell Memorial Library at the University of Georgia, Athens. A Motion was made, seconded and carried that one set of the Report and Hearings with the proposed recipients name stamped in gold be furnished each of the staff members who have been with the Commission a substantial period of time in the work of the investigation and preparation of the Report. it concerns [J. Edgar] Hoover, and [the] Secretary of State, and some others. A fter 29-year-old airline employee Richard B. Russell stole a plane at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on Friday night and crashed it into Ketron Island in Puget Sound, questions remain. He further reported that these had been used as citations in support of various statements in the Report and that it was desirable and proper for these Commission documents at this time to be denominated exhibits and thereby be made a part of the proceedings of the Commission. 1, ed. I can see the Olympics from my window, and it looks pretty good over there. [Verse 2] My man flies today. It is also directed that this be done as soon as it can be accomplished after the Report is published and still adequately protect the determinations of the Commission as set forth in the Report. Yet Johnson couched the question in such a way that Russell probably thought the President was not considering the Chief Justice. A transcript of the relevant part of the conversation is reproduced below, along with the official minutes of the 18 September meeting. Never really knew it until now. . A Motion was made, seconded and carried that the Chairman hereby be appointed to act with full and complete authority so as to promptly proceed with whatever steps are necessary and proper to liquidate and close up the affairs of the Commission and that during such period of liquidation and final determination of the Commissions activities, the Chairman shall have full power and authority to call the Commission into session at any time that he may see fit, and shall do so upon the request of any Commissioner. Air traffic control: Do you have any idea of how much fuel you have left? The document is reproduced below. Richard Russell, who liked to be called Beebo, was a 29-year-old man living in Sumner, Washington, who was born in Key West, Florida, and moved to Wasilla, Alaska, when he was 7 years old . Im going to try to get Senator Russell and Senator [John Sherman] Cooper from the Senate. . On August 10, 2018, a Horizon Air Bombardier Q400 was stolen from SeattleTacoma International Airport (SeaTac) in Seattle, Washington. Russell took off from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport at 7.32pm on Friday and flew, tailed by F-15 Eagle jets, until the plane crashed at 8.47pm into Ketron Island, located 25 miles south . [46][47], N449QX, the aircraft involved in the incident, pictured 2 months before the crash. For more about Richard Russells criticism of the Warren Commission, see: For the running of the Commission and the attendance of its members, see Edward Epstein, Inquest: The Warren Commission and the Establishment of Truth, Viking Press, 1966, and McKnight, op.cit.. A scan of the minutes of the 18 September executive session can be found at http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=1335. Although a stenographer appeared to be present, the official written record of the meeting did not take the form of a verbatim transcript, as was the case with the other sessions, but was merely a list of trivial procedural items. Russell was well-liked by his co-workers, according to The Seattle Times. It was suggested by one of the Commissioners that it would be helpful to Members of the Commission if they each had a page proof of Chapter I of the proposed Report as soon as it is obtained from the Public Printer for their examination. Richard Russell, who liked to be called Beebo, was a 29-year-old man living in Sumner, Washington, who was born in Key West, Florida, and moved to Wasilla, Alaska, when he was 7 years old, according to a Web page he set up for a college communications class. A Motion was made by Representative Ford that a letter dated September 10, 1964, of Representative Pillion of Buffalo, New York, directed to the Commission, together with a copy of the interview of the Federal Bureau of Investigation with said Representative, be published in the Hearings of the Commission. Audio released of Russells conversation with an air traffic controller suggests that he was struggling with mental health issues, but his motive for stealing the plane remains unclear. [24] Delayed by the SteilacoomAnderson Island ferry, firefighters from West Pierce Fire and Rescue and other nearby departments arrived on the island about an hour and a half after the crash, where they then contended with the island's thick brush. And . Russell: You got anything better than trying to land it? I wouldn't want to do that. Beebo was loved by everyone because he was kind and gentle to each person he met. Page 3. Statement to the Senate Special Committee on Indian Affairs. They said it's clear Russell didn't intend to harm anyone, and 'he was right in saying that there are so many people who loved him.'. If you or someone you know may be contemplating suicide, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255. 18:33 BST 13 Aug 2018, The suicidal airport worker who hijacked and crashed a plane said before he died:'I'll go nose down and call it a night.'. The country [would] be in a helluva lot better shape. The plane was grounded for the night after returning from Victoria, B.C., which was its final scheduled flight of the day. Thats right. . Alaska Air Group CEO Brad Tilden said at a news conference Saturday that Russell worked for Horizon Air for four years and was on the clock and in uniform when he stole the twin-engine turboprop plane, which was parked in a cargo lot at the time. Just like me, what we want to see is you not get hurt, or anyone else get hurt. Thats probably the theory . Russell wrote that he was pursuing his Bachelor of Social Sciences and hoped to work his way up to a management position at Horizon Air or to join the military or law enforcement. He became critical of the FBI when he learned about the bureaus destruction of Oswalds note threatening to blow up the FBI office in Dallas, and of the CIA when its alliance with mobsters became public knowledge. I think itd be mighty well if that thing was kept quiet another week or ten days . I don't want to. Im coming in there Sunday afternoon. Whywhy shouldnt you? Not enough to get by. Richard Russell: Details emerge of a 'compassionate' man after Seattle plane heist and fiery crash By Alex Horton August 13, 2018 at 8:01 a.m. EDT A Horizon Air employee described as "suicidal". Mellon Foundation and the Presidents Office of the University of Virginia, The Miller Centers Presidential Recordings Program is funded in part by the Such statement shall describe the salaries, travel, equipment rent and similar general categories, with the total obligations and total estimated cost, this approval to be subject to such financial statement being furnished to each of the Commissioners and their having an opportunity to direct such inquiries as they may care to to [sic] the General Counsel about specific items. In this season of life we enjoy exploring as much as possible, whether its a day (or so) trip to one of Alaska Airlines destinations, or visiting a new area of Washington, Russell wrote about himself and his wife online. delivered 30 January 1989, Washington, D.C. Russell Means - Statement to Congress (Audio Enhanced) Audio mp3 of Address. Rich: Man, have you been to the Olympics? 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Authorities sent fighter jets to escort him, and the controller repeatedly tried to direct him to runways. National Historical Publications and Records Commission, http://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/9010161, See the daily introduction for 1963-11-29, Copyright 2014 by the Rector and Visitors of the University of Virginia. I know youre getting a good view there, but if you go too much farther in that direction I wont be able to hear you anymore. The family of Richard Russell, who authorities say stole an airplane from a Seattle airport and died when he later crashed it, called him "a warm and compassionate man." Meet the honorees . [18] After the incident, Joel Monteith, a pilot for SkyWest Airlines, relayed to an emergency dispatcher that in 2017, he saw Russell and another man "pointing and flipping switches" in the cockpit of a SkyWest aircraft parked at SeaTac Airport. Thus, Johnsons Senate mentor was in agreement with the idea of a special commission if it meant an end to all congressional hearings. with thoughtful technological innovation designed for scholars and . when Johnson asked then-Sen. Richard B. Russell . Like, uh, 760? Rich: Nah I mean, I don't need that much help. evaluate it for the general public. Charlie Moore For Mailonline I think thatd be better than [the Senate] Judiciary [Committee] running one investigation, the House [Judiciary Committee] running another investigation, and having four [or] five going [in] opposite directions, because. You have reached your limit of free articles. Rich: I don't want to hurt anyone, I just want you to whisper sweet nothings into my ear. "[38], Russell was born in Key West, Florida, and moved to Wasilla, Alaska, at the age of seven. [aside] Bill [Moyers], give me that list of the people. In a statement, the family says Richard Russell, whose nickname was "Beebo," was warm, kind and gentle. "[17] He asked ATC if he could get a job as a pilot with Alaska Airlines if he successfully landed the aircraft. [note 23] Elbert P. Tuttle was chief judge, U.S. Court of Appeals, Fifth Circuit. Russells term expired in 1966. All three were career politicians who represented southern states: Russells dissent was the most vocal, and is captured in a phone conversation with President Johnson late on 18 September 1964, a few hours after the Commissions final executive session. So many bags,' he narrates over back-to-back clips of suitcases being loaded on and off of airplanes as a lighthearted tune plays in the background. But . It had first flown in 2012 and was delivered new to Horizon Air in the same year. Rich: Hey I want the coordinates of that orca, you know, the mama orca with the baby. He met his wife, Hannah, in 2010 in Coos Bay, Oregon while we were both going to school, and the couple wed one year later, Russell wrote on his website. There's a lot of pretty stuff, but they're prettier in a different context. . Magazines, Digital call you, but you can get plenty of them. Richard Russell Petitioner V Texas US Supreme Court Transcript of hill with Supporting Pleadings Amazonde Heard Oliver S Wade Henry. [41] They sold the bakery in 2015 so his wife could be closer to her family; they settled in Sumner, Washington, and Russell found employment with Horizon Air. 'There is the runway just off your right side in about a mile, do you see that?' Im sorry about this, I hope this doesnt ruin your day. theres some things about it I cant talk about, but[note 3] Johnson was probably referring to the allegation leveled by Nicaraguan informant Gilberto Alvarado that Oswald received money in the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City. Charlie Moore For Mailonline, Praise for 'calm, prudent' Seattle air traffic controller who struck up a rapport with 'one in a million' plane hijacker and helped avoid mass casualties, Hijacker's remains found: Aerial photos show crash site from above as plane's flight recorder is found among shattered pieces of aircraft so small 'you can pick them all up by hand', 'We're not your enemies!' Rich: Hey pilot guy, can this thing do a backflip, you think? See Jim DiEugenio, J. Russell was a brick of a young man, square-shouldered and stout with long, powerful arms. The FBI investigation found that Russell was a properly credentialed employee of Horizon Air, had access to the exterior and interior of aircraft in the regular course of his duties, and did not. Nah, I'm a white guy. But hes agreeable to folks like Dulles, and . Newly Released Video Shows the Moment Richard Russell Stole a Plane at Sea-Tac Russell, a Seattle airport employee, took an empty Horizon Air passenger plane on a joyride that ended in a. Monteith stated the men told him they were training to use the aircraft's auxiliary power unit so they could tow it, but said it was "suspicious" that they left when he confronted them. Captain Bill: Alright Rich, this is Captain Bill. [Laughs, and Russell joins in.]. No, uh-uh. And so they wanted some southerner, some outstanding southerner, Well it was a good thing! It's going to disappoint them to hear that I did this. All Rights Reserved. Id go crazy in six weeks in that job, and you. Just a broken guy, got a few screws loose I guess. [unclear] see it'd save my life, I declare, I dont want to serve on that [unclear]. Russell, a 3 1/2-year Horizon employee, worked as a ground service agent. 1 of The Presidential Recordings (New York and London: W. W. Norton and Company, 2005). Some of these circuit court judgessome right there in the District [of Columbia] one or two, are pretty good. I think hes on the Circuit Court of Appeals up in New York now. playlist is created using html elements. I know it. John Coopers dissent is contained in his own unpublished papers, which can be found at the University of Kentucky, Lexington. Rich: Hey do you think if I land this successfully Alaska will give me a job as a pilot? After the 22 January 1964 meeting that dealt with the rumours that Oswald was associated with the FBI or the CIA, the stenographers notes were destroyed. I saw where he was in the box there with Lady Bird. The collection combines the originality, intellectual rigor, "Lyndon Johnson and Richard Russell on 27 May 1964," Tape WH6405.10, Citations #3519, #3520, and #3521, . Folder: Telegram, Richard Russell to Harry S. Truman. Air traffic control: If you wanted to land, probably your best bet is that runway just ahead and to your left. . [note 7] End of 2021 revisions. The transcripts covered 275 phone calls recorded in November and December 1963 in the Johnson White House relating to the Kennedy assassination. 'Hi, I'm Beebo Russell and I'm a grounds service agent. I don't want to I was kind of hoping that would be it, you know. [note 11] Tom Clark was a U.S. Supreme Court associate justice. McCloy and Allen Dulles, and maybe somebody from the [Supreme] Court. So I came back in my office. Rich: Alright, damnit, I don't know man, I don't know. But in the days immediately following Sen. John McCain's death over the weekend, the senator from Georgia became rapidly relevant again -- as Senate . There [has] never been one thing leaked. . . Collection: The Decision to Drop the Atomic Bomb. As of 2019[update], this clean up effort was still ongoing, with pieces of aircraft wreckage still being located on the island after the first anniversary of the incident. No, thats what I said; thatd disqualify him. Hell, I hadnt invited him up here; I never heard of it. Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard B. Russell on 30 October 1968 Administration: Johnson Place: President's Little Office Date: Wednesday, 30 October 1968 Time: 10:25 am Series: Johnson Telephone Tapes: 1968 Duration: 24:38 Next Recording Transcript Edited by Kent B. Germany, Nicole Hemmer, and Ken Hughes, with Kieran K. Matthews and Marc J. Selverstone Im going to try to get Allen [W.] Dulles. Well, {the only argument about it is that, of course, in a} matter of this magnitude, the American people would feel reassured to have a member of the highest Courtthats the only [argument] youve got. In audio obtained by The Seattle Times, the 29-year-old man is called "Rich" by air traffic controllers at Sea-Tac International Airport. Outside of the US, one of Russell's favorite locations appears to be France, where he'd toured everywhere from Alsace to Sisteron to the Lavender Field in Valensole. [6], The aircraft was stolen from Plane Cargo 1 at the north end of SeaTac Airport[6] and maneuvered to runway 16C via taxiways. URL: http://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/9010161. Never really knew it, until now. About; Blog; Projects; Help; Donate. Well, how [did] you happen to get ahold of him? Well, I just told him how much I loved Georgia, and he told the press that his grandpappy came from there. The incident aircraft was a Bombardier Q400, owned by Horizon Air (and operating for Alaska Airlines) with the registration N449QX[2][3][4] and serial number 4410. [note 1] After Oswalds murder on 24 November, Johnson had ordered the FBI to make a complete report on the events in Dallas, even though its legal authority to do so was tenuous. Rich: Yeah, I don't know what the burnage, burnout? . [45] The aircraft was worth $30million, all of which was paid under the company's insurance policy "with no deductibles. Rich: Damnit Andrew, people's lives are at stake here. . The perpetrator, 29-year-old Richard Russell, was a Horizon Air ground service agent with no piloting experience. and I think that Coopers a Republican, and youre a good states rights man. . [AUTHENTICITY CERTIFIED: Text version below transcribed directly from audio] Hau mitakuyepi, miye malakota. But I dont think that Hoover ought to make his report too soon. President, I could hit a man on that street going 20 miles an hour as easy as I could hit you sitting talking to you. Thats his language. A video posted to Russell's amateur travel blog in December 2017 provides an intimate view into his life as a grounds service agent for Horizon Airlines, a job that consisted primarily of loading and unloading luggage, paying only $13.75 per hour. Washington, D.C., Friday, September 18, 1964. I would hope it is for a guy like me. "[16] When ATC suggested that the plane be landed at Joint Base LewisMcChord, the occupant refused: "Those guys will rough me up if I try and land there. Rich: I wouldnt mind just shooting the s**t with you guys, but its all business, you know? After 29-year-old airline employee Richard B. Russell stole a plane at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on Friday night and crashed it into Ketron Island in Puget Sound, questions remain about why and how he undertook the ultimately fatal flight. Russell was impressed by Connallys insistence that he and President Kennedy had not been hit by the same bullet (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, pp.135f). Oh, thats right; thats right. I would like to figure out how to get this make it pressurized or something so I'm not lightheaded. 760 pounds? See the daily introduction for 1964-05-27 [from the Norton edition] Richard Russell. Maybe that will grease the gears a little bit with the higher-ups. 500 W US Hwy 24 Independence, MO 64050 816-268-8200 | 800-833-1225 But Ive kept her off. In later years, Rankin himself seems to have entertained the possibility that the assassination was the result of a conspiracy. The transcript of the phone call between Richard Russell and Lyndon Johnson, and the minutes of the Warren Commission meeting, have been formatted in valid HTML to make them accessible to search engines and web browsers. Just on. Like a lot of bags. [28] It described the perpetrator, identified as 29-year-old Richard Russell,[29][30] as suicidal and said his actions did not constitute a "terrorist incident". CNN Richard Russell was a funny, gentle and hardworking man, said family and a colleague of the airline employee who stole a passenger plane from the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. You get your rest. Rich:I feel like one of my engines is going out or something. Well, I just got down here. Russell, who was a ground service employee for Horizon Air and did not have a pilots license, took the twin-engine turboprop plane from a maintenance area where it was parked at the airport. He said flying was a 'blast' and that he didn't need much help: 'I've played some video games before.'. They were all, in some measure, the result of the work of Richard B. Russell (1897-1971), a New Deal Democrat who served as governor of Georgia in the 1930s before embarking on a nearly four . I wouldn't want to do that. So I dont know how he achieved the experience that he did.. [20] A veteran pilot said the maneuver "seemed pretty well executed, without either stalling or pulling the wings off. Russell detested the Chief Justice because of several decisions handed down by the Warren Court. Transcript. "[43] Some co-workers said that Russell had probably trained himself to fly using amateur flight simulation software. . . social sciences. They say says this is a complete shock. Im going to try to. [19] Alaska Air Group CEO Brad Tilden announced on the same day that the airline was coordinating with the Federal Aviation Administration, the FBI, and the National Transportation Safety Board, and was "working to find out everything we possibly can about what happened". Well, hes not but . You have many more circuit court judges [who] are far abler than some of your Supreme Court justices, but that is the argument. Ill be. '. Until this conversation, however, Russell did not know that Johnson wanted him to serve on the panel. The General Counsel reported various items of the expenses and budget of the Commission during its months of operation and after discussion a motion was made, seconded and carried that the budget and expenses of the Commission as reported by Mr. Rankin be approved, subject to his furnishing a general financial statement for the period from November 29, 1963, to an estimated date of October 31, 1964. They tell me, he gives them some problems, but thats. Johnsons phone call to Russell touched on several topics unrelated to the JFK assassination. . . The Mary Ferrell Foundation website contains scans of all the executive session transcripts. and scholarly value of traditional peer-reviewed university press publishing [note 30] Johnson was asking Russell to help him develop the line of argument Johnson could use in the upcoming meeting with Warrenunbeknownst to Russell! 'Last night's event is going to push us to learn what we can from this tragedy so that we can ensure this does not happen again at Alaska Air Group or at any other airline,' Brad Tilden, CEO of Alaska Airlines, told a news conference Saturday. [29] An operational supervisor for Horizon Air described Russell as "a quiet guy" who was "well liked by the other workers". A Port of Seattle official, Mike Pohl, said that Russell used an airport tractor to pull the parked plane onto a runway, which he would have known how to do, as part of his job in ground service was towing airplanes. 35657. He doesnt have to be. well, Iwhen I came back in my office, I told him that you said hes going to have lunch with you, and to get ahold of him and tell him I wanted to see him before he went back. About 1 hour and 15 minutes after takeoff, Russell died by intentionally crashing the aircraft on lightly populated Ketron Island in Puget Sound. Well, [are] you going to have Hoover on there? The Miller Center is a nonpartisan affiliate of the University of Virginia [note 14] Russell chaired the Senate Armed Services subcommittee with responsibility for oversight of the CIA. A Motion was made, seconded and carried that as soon as all of the exhibits and other records of the Commission which are to be published have been printed and made available to the public, all of the remaining materials and records of the Commission shall be delivered to the National Archives to be held in perpetuity for the use and benefit of the people of the United States in accordance with federal laws and regulations. He also shows off clips from a ski trip at Schweitzer Mountain in Sandpoint, Idaho, and a hiking trip at Precipice Trail in Maine's Acadia National Park. He also told the controller he 'wasn't really planning on landing' the aircraft, and he described himself as 'just a broken guy.'. This was not the only example of manipulation of the records of the Warren Commission. Well, Dulles is a good man. Thats what I like about it. That means, I lift a lot of bags. The Commission had a staff of around 30 attorneys, who: Richard Russell himself attended fewer hearings than any other Commissioner. These guys are gorgeous, holy smokes. Air traffic control:You know, I think they would give you a job doing anything if you could pull this off.
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